So i have my old PID tune from when i had the Hype Trains on my quad... and that wasn't a good idea to fly with it - my lazy ass didnt change it- (currently changing) - Anyways! This is with the Cheepass Motors, Speedix 30a escs , CNHL 1300 4s / No hype 1500 & 1300 4s Batteries - i was also rocking Bot Grinders Grass Cutters. And big surprise... i haven't flown in a while due to lack of parts! LOL Enjoy!